پادکست انگلیسی BBC – وگانیسم: خوب یا بد ؟

وگانیسم (Veganism) یا گیاه خواری مطلق از اون مسائل پرحاشیه ایه که هم طرفدار داره هم مخالف. کسایی که وگان هستند حتی از خوردن لبنیات، تخم مرغ و عسل هم پرهیز می کنن. چون معتقدن این کار رو برای رعایت حقوق حیوانات، حفاظت از محیط زیست و حفظ سلامتی انجام میدن. نظر شما درباره ی وگانیسم چیه؟ آیا اون رو به vegetarianism (گیاه خواری) ترجیح میدید؟ یا رژیم غذایی تون شامل گوشت میشه؟  (نظر خودتون رو به انگلیسی در بخش دیدگاه با ما در میون بذارید!)  در پادکست انگلیسی BBC – وگانیسم: خوب یا بد ؟ می شنویم که دن و راب درمورد دیدگاه افراد درباره ی وگانیسم حرف می زنن و در طول مسیر کلمات مرتبط هم آموزش میدن.

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سوال پادکست انگلیسی BBC – وگانیسم: خوب یا بد ؟ :

Which one of these items can a lacto-ovo-vegetarian eat?

a) pork

b) fish or

c) cheese

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معنی به فارسی	معنی به انگلیسی	واژه
چیزی که فقط برای مدت کوتاهی محبوب است	something that is popular but only for a short time	fad
چیزی که اکثر مردم پذیرفته اند	something that has become accepted by most people as normal	mainstream
قطب بندی (افراد)	a situation that causes people to divide into two groups with opposing views	polarised
غیر اخلاقی	something that society thinks is wrong or not acceptable	immoral
(موارد) پیرامونی، فرعی	relates to things that are not as important as the main argument but are connected to it / situated on the edge	peripheral
خوب	good or good enough	decent

BBC 6 minute English - Debating veganism: How to change someone's opinion

متن پادکست انگلیسی BBC - وگانیسم: خوب یا بد ؟

Note: This is not a word-for-word transcript

Dan
Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I’m Dan and joining me is Rob.

Rob
Hello.

Dan
Here at BBC Learning English, we’re always discussing diets.

Rob
I am on a sea-food diet. When I see food, I just have to eat it!

Dan
I suppose there’s no chance of converting you to a vegan diet, is there? That seems be the most talked about food fad at the moment – a fad is something that is popular but only for a short time.

Rob
Of course, veganism – that’s not eating or using any products that come from animals – may be more than a fad. It could be a lifestyle that improves our health and the planet. And it could be here to stay. But personally, me becoming a vegan would take some persuading.

Dan
I’m sure it would.  And in this programme we’ll be discussing the debate about veganism and how it’s sometimes difficult to change people’s minds. But first a question to answer. We’ve mentioned what a vegan eats but what about a lacto-ovo-vegetarian? Which one of these items can they eat? Is it:

a) pork          
b) fish or
c) cheese?

Rob
I’ll say b) they can eat fish.

Dan
Well, you’ll have to wait until the end of the programme to find out. But now back to veganism. According to some national surveys, there are now around 3.5 million full-time vegans in the UK… and the number is growing!

Rob
And what was recently a radical lifestyle choice is slowly moving into the mainstream – or has become accepted by most people as normal.

Dan
Advocates of veganism say their healthy lifestyle would also free up space and resources for growing food and it would help reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

Rob
Yeah, but come on Dan. Having a meat-free diet means you might not get all the nutrients you need.

Dan
Well, this is all part of the debate, Rob. There’s always two sides to an argument and it’s something that’s been discussed on BBC Radio 4’s Farming Today programme. They spoke to Dr Jutta Tobias Mortlock, a senior lecturer in organisational psychology at London’s City University, who explained why views about veganism are so polarised – that ‘means causing people to divide into two groups with opposing views’.

Dr Jutta Tobias Mortlock
This issue touches on personal beliefs, and beliefs always trump facts and so, often when we talk about beliefs, we’re touching on important values. Values are the things that guide our opinion over what’s right versus what’s wrong. And so whenever people argue over whether it’s right or wrong to eat meat, they are in fact not debating the facts around this issue, they’re actually debating the beliefs about what’s moral or immoral about this.

Dan
So it seems in the whole debate about veganism we are basing our views on beliefs. A belief is something we feel is true or real. Our beliefs are based on our values – those are the things we think are right and wrong.

Rob
And when we argue over the rights and wrongs of veganism, we base it on our values – not hard facts. We talk about our view on what is immoral – so what society thinks is wrong or not acceptable. But basically, there is no right or wrong answer.

Dan
That’s why we need facts, Rob.

Rob
So Dan, what can I do if I want to win you over to becoming an omnivore, like me?

Dan
According to Dr Jutta, there are two main routes to winning someone over: a direct, fact-based approach or a ‘peripheral route’, which might be more effective. Let’s hear her explain how it works.

Dr Jutta Tobias Mortlock
If I’m working with you and I’m trying to get you to come round to my side, I might not focus on the central facts. I might focus on the peripheral stuff around how I’m constructing my argument. I’d look for ways of how they overlap as people, like what do they have in common? And that’s a way to debate an issue such as this controversial one in a way to get people to feel connected to each other and to actually feel that they value each other as decent human beings.

Rob
Interesting! This is a more subtle way of winning an argument. She says we should focus on the peripheral stuff – these are the things that are not as important as the main argument but are connected to it.

Dan
So we could say we’re looking for common ground – things that both sides agree on or at least understand. Dr Jutta talked about making both sides feel connected. And it’s a good point. Even if you don’t want to be a vegan, you should respect someone’s choice to be one.

Rob
Yes, it’s all about valuing someone as a decent human being. Decent means ‘good and having good moral standards’. Like us, Dan!

Dan
Well, they’re wise words, Rob! Of course, it would be morally wrong – immoral – not to give you the answer to our quiz question. Earlier I asked which one of these items can a lacto-ovo-vegetarian eat.

Rob
I said b) fish.

Dan
Sorry, no – that’s something they can’t eat – but they can eat cheese. A lacto-ovo-vegetarian is a person who eats vegetables, eggs, and dairy products but does not eat meat.

Rob
No meat! No steak! How can they enjoy eating?!

Dan
Rob, remember as a decent human beings, we respect all views here.

Rob
Just joking – but now I’m deadly serious about reviewing some of the vocabulary we’ve discussed today.

DanOK. Our first word was fad. A fad is something that is popular but only for a short time.

Rob
Next, we mentioned mainstream. Something that is mainstream has become accepted by most people as normal.

Dan
Then we had polarised – that describes a situation that causes people to divide into two groups with opposing views.

Rob
A belief is something we feel is true or real. And immoral describes something that society thinks is wrong or not acceptable.

Dan
We also mentionedperipheral, which relates to things that are not as important as the main argument, but are connected to it. It also means situated on the edge.

Rob
And finally, decent means good or good enough.

Dan
Don’t forget you can learn more English with us on our website at bbclearningenglish.com.

Rob
Bye for now.

Dan
Goodbye.

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