پادکست BBC شماره 196 – Get on with it

پادکست BBC شماره 196

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در زیر کلمات کلیدی که باید با آن‌ها آشنا شوید برایتان توضیح داده شده‌اند:

procrastination : delaying doing something you’re supposed to do

procrastination : تعلل

priority : something that is more important than other things

priority : اولویت

minimize : reduce

minimize : کاهش

knuckle down : start working hard

knuckle down : شروع کردن یک کار سخت

tedious : boring

tedious : خسته کننده

temptation bundling : doing two activities together: one you should do but are avoiding, and one that you love doing but isn’t productive

temptation bundling : انجام دو فعالیت با هم

fallacy : a mistaken belief or idea

fallacy: یک باور یا ایده اشتباه

Transcript of the podcast

پادکست BBC 6 minute English – Get on with it

Alice
Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I’m Alice…

Rob
…and I’m Rob.

Alice
So Rob, did you get that research done that I asked you to do over the weekend?

Rob
Oh … It was at the top of my to-do list. But Sunday night came around so quickly, and I just – you know – I didn’t get round to it.

Alice
Rob! If I’d known you weren’t going to do the research, I’d have done it myself. What did you actually do at the weekend, anyway?

Rob
Oh, you know, this and that. It’s funny how time slips by without you noticing.

Alice
Hmm, yes. I bet you spent the whole weekend watching cat videos on YouTube – and googling your own name.

Rob
What? That’s unfair and untrue, Alice – well, mostly untrue, anyway – I did some shopping and I fixed my bike as well as watching videos and googling myself.

Alice
Well, perhaps I should say at this point that today’s show is about procrastination, which means not doing something you’re supposed to do.

Rob
Well, I do feel bad about my procrastination actually.

Alice
Well, that’s good to hear. But let’s move on now and hear today’s quiz question: Can you tell me which American said: ‘You may delay, but time will not?’ Was it…

a) John F Kennedy?
b) Benjamin Franklin?
Or c) Franklin Roosevelt?

Rob
OK. I think I’ll go for a) John F Kennedy because I reckon he was good at making to-do lists and then getting on with them.

Alice
Unlike somebody I could mention.

Rob
Alice, I thought we were going to move on?

Alice
Alright then.

Rob
Personally, I think it’s important to try and understand why we procrastinate. So let’s hear from Daphna Oyserman, Professor of Psychology, Communication and Education at the University of Southern California, talking about this.

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Daphna Oyserman, Professor of Psychology, Communication and Education at the University of Southern California
People spend most of their time focussed on the present, which makes perfect sense because the present is now, and for sure. Unfortunately, many things that are quite important about the future require that we start doing things now rather than waiting for later to happen. Things like saving for retirement, studying for college entry exams, revising papers, preparing for work reports. Unfortunately, waiting till later means that we won’t have much time.

Alice
So, we are too focussed on the present, and reluctant to engage in tasks that relate to the future. Why’s that, Rob?

Rob
Well, like Professor Oyserman says, things in the future may never happen – or seem too far off for you to take seriously. For example, when you’re young, sorting out a pension plan doesn’t feel like a priority – or something that’s more important than other things.

Alice
But according to a new study, if you think about time in smaller units – so days, for example, rather than months or years – you are likely to start a task more quickly.

Rob
So, this weekend I wasted two days…

Alice
Or 2,880 minutes.

Rob
That does sound more urgent, when you put it like that.

Alice
Yes. And you need to minimize – or reduce – distractions. Turn off your tech and knuckle down to your tasks, Rob.

Rob
To knuckle down, by the way, means to start working hard. But Alice, sometimes it’s hard to knuckle down to a task when you don’t know how to start it – or you’re scared to start it – or sometimes just because you know it’s going to be really tedious – and that means boring.

Alice
Yes. So what’s your excuse, Rob?

Rob
Well, it’s boredom, usually.

Alice
You should try temptation bundling.

Rob
Temptation bundling – what’s that?

Alice
Temptation bundling means doing two activities together – one you should do but are avoiding, and one you love doing which isn’t productive.

Rob
For example, eating biscuits while I work?

Alice
Yes, that’s right. That sounds like a good one for you, Rob.

Rob
It might be a good idea actually. Well, let’s listen to Dr Catherine Loveday talking about how we often underestimate how long things will take us.

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Dr Catherine Loveday, Westminster University
There’s this thing called the planning fallacy. My favourite one is always the example of the Oxford English Dictionary that they started in 1857 and it was supposed to take five years, but five years later they’d only got to the word ‘ant’. In the end it took another 70 years and then it was out of date and they had to start again anyway. We never seem to get any better at judging time in the future and how long things will take us.

Rob
That’s Dr Catherine Loveday. So what’s a fallacy, Alice?

Alice
It’s a mistaken belief or idea.

Rob
And for the famous Oxford English Dictionary – their mistake was to think they would get the work done in five years when it actually took 70!

Alice
Gosh! Wow! What a long time! And talking about time – ours is running out – let’s go back to today’s question. I asked: Which American said, “You may delay, but time will not?” Was it … a) John F Kennedy, b) Benjamin Franklin or c) Franklin Roosevelt?

Rob
And I very confidently said John F Kennedy.

Alice
Yes, you did. And you were wrong today Rob, I’m afraid. It was Benjamin Franklin, one of the Founding Fathers of the United States. Franklin was a leading author, printer, political theorist, politician, freemason, postmaster, scientist, inventor, civic activist, statesman, and diplomat. I doubt he wasted much waste time procrastinating!

Rob
No. OK, without further delay, here are the words we learned today:
procrastination
priority
minimize
knuckle down
tedious
temptation bundling
fallacy

Alice
Well, that’s the end of today’s 6 Minute English. Please join us again soon!

Both
Bye.

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